List your suggestions for what book should we use for all of our drills.

Hardees, Caseys, etc.

A vote in the near future will decide our book of choice for a drill manual.

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Mark T. Krausz
Prodigal Sons Mess of Company B, 36th Illinois Infantry Volunteers

"I thought of the trials and privations which those dear boys had endured and must still endure, and it seemed they were doomed to annihilation. It was for them I cried."
— Col. Silas B. Miller
Old Northwest Volunteers
36th IL

Once again, I will say that it is necessary to find an actual unit that we can all agree upon that existed in the war, find out what they wore, drilled, etc. and act accordingly.

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I am, your obediant servant,
Riley Ewen
Prodigal Sons Mess
Mess Youngling

O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede keimetha tois keinon rhemasi peithomenoi.

Gentlemen,
It all depends on the portrayal were doing and the unit.
If its early, mid, or late war, union or confederate. The differences iin most of the drills are very small. Basically school of the soldier, some facings, fixings of bayonets and stacking. Plus some minor facing and company ddrill changes. We have adjusted our drill habits in mess3 to fit the event. Its very easy, just a little homework before hand.
Cheers ;D
Terry Sorchy

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Terry Sorchy
Mess #3

From what I can tell, most of us portray Western Federal Infantry, and so we should form a predominately federal impression, but allow members to portray CS troops on the occasion.
Best,
Mark

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Mark T. Krausz
Prodigal Sons Mess of Company B, 36th Illinois Infantry Volunteers

"I thought of the trials and privations which those dear boys had endured and must still endure, and it seemed they were doomed to annihilation. It was for them I cried."
— Col. Silas B. Miller
Old Northwest Volunteers
36th IL

Response should probably be in the Who Are We section.
Cheers
Terry

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Terry Sorchy
Mess #3

Dec 27, 2005, 9:44pm, terrymess3 wrote:
Gentlemen,
It all depends on the portrayal were doing and the unit.
If its early, mid, or late war, union or confederate. The differences in most of the drills are very small. Basically school of the soldier, some facings, fixings of bayonets and stacking. Plus some minor facing and company drill changes. We have adjusted our drill habits in mess3 to fit the event. Its very easy, just a little homework before hand.
Cheers ;D
Terry Sorchy


I agree with Terry on this one. We shouldn't get stuck on just one manual, but should be open to the variety of drill manuals used during the war. It should really be dependent upon what unit we are portraying for a certain event and the time period. Choosing one specific drill manual would limit our impressions and limit our opportunities.
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Hochachtungsvoll,

Dave Frohmader

Ol' Sipley Mess
Mess No. 3
Old Northwest Volunteers
Former Mudsill

Mark,

I agree with the others.


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Aaron Schwieterman
Cincinnati

Pick them all up.
Caseys, Hardees, Scotts, Gilhams, heck even the d**n Prussian manual.
You will use one of them at nearly any event you go to. Remember, if the event is a quality one, the impression will already be chosen for you and you will need to adapt to IT, not the other way around.

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Pat Price
Pumpkin Patch Mess
The GHTI

"Remember, if the event is a quality one, the impression will already be chosen for you and you will need to adapt to IT, not the other way around"

This is an excellect point that most are not taking into account.

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Scott Gulley
The GHTI

Agreed. One should be knowledgable in all manuals. Then we can figure stuff out.

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I am, your obediant servant,
Riley Ewen
Prodigal Sons Mess
Mess Youngling

O xein angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti tede keimetha tois keinon rhemasi peithomenoi.

Dec 29, 2005, 8:54am, pprice wrote:
Pick them all up.
Caseys, Hardees, Scotts, Gilhams, heck even the d**n Prussian manual.
You will use one of them at nearly any event you go to. Remember, if the event is a quality one, the impression will already be chosen for you and you will need to adapt to IT, not the other way around.


This is sound advise. As Terry mentioned previously, the manuals are NOT differerant, (heck I know everyone of them by heart) and depending on what unit we might have to use a certain manual. We CERTAINLY can designate a specific manual as our "standard", but that would go back to the question, are we going to be a Specific Unit (wich I agree with) and use the name such as The Old Northwest Volunteers as a general identification name

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John M. Wedeward

33d Wisconsin Vol Infantry
Hard Head Mess
The Old Northwest Vol's.
5th Kentucky Vol's - Thomas' Mudsills

Dec 29, 2005, 8:54am, pprice wrote:
Pick them all up.
Caseys, Hardees, Scotts, Gilhams, heck even the d**n Prussian manual.
You will use one of them at nearly any event you go to. Remember, if the event is a quality one, the impression will already be chosen for you and you will need to adapt to IT, not the other way around.


Could not agree more. Heck I will even throw in Chandler's.

Tom

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Tom Klas
Hard Head Mess

Gang the number of substantive differences between the various manuals is actually quite small as was pointed out, and once we know what unit will be portrayed at each event it becomes a simple thing to publish a quick primer on the differences. We likely ought to become experts on Casey's, and then be able to quickly adapt to Hardee's or Revised Hardee's if required. A case could also be made to start with Hardees 1855, as we are headed into 1861/62 events mostly. I cannot imagine using Gilhams, unless we find ourselves as Virginia troops at some point.